Rank 1 - No intelligence requirement.
Rank 2 - No intelligence requirement.
Rank 3 - No intelligence requirement.
Rank 4 - No intelligence requirement.
Rank 5 - No intelligence requirement.
Rank 6 - At least 10 intelligence.
Rank 7 - At least 20 intelligence.
Rank 8 - At least 30 intelligence.
Rank 9 - At least 50 intelligence.
Rank 10 - At least 70 intelligence.
Rank 11 - At least 80 intelligence.
Rank 12 - At least 90 intelligence.
Rank 13 - At least 100 intelligence.
Rank 14 - At least 120 intelligence.
Rank 15 - At least 150 intelligence.

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It's not too strong. It's just a power enhanced punch with slight fire damage. Don't even do that.

Rank 7 spell > rank 3, 4 and 6 barrier.

What??

Magma Fist is rank 7, to get rank 7, you need a requirement of 20 intelligence. Therefore, it's fair game if I 1HKO your rank 6 barrier.

Yep, if your barrier is rank 6 then the rank 7 spell would break him easily, if I follow your logic.

That's fine, but what needs to be nerfed it the fact it grows stronger the more turns you use it..

Umibouzu wrote:

That's fine, but what needs to be nerfed it the fact it grows stronger the more turns you use it..

It doesn't...

William wrote:

My barrier breaker, Magma Fist goes like this:

Destroys equal or lesser barriers in one punch (one post).
Destroys one rank higher in two punches (two posts).
Destroys two rank higher in four punches (three~four posts).

Etc...

This??

No, it means it needs to be used more than once to destroy a barrier more than two ranks stronger than it.

Now even that is getting to be too far, Barrier Breakers should not be stackable..

OMG... It's not stackable. -_-

For example, one use cracks the barrier of 2 ranks higher than it. The magma disappears.

It still needs to be used 2-3 more times to crack it more/make a hole in the barrier.

The question is :

Are barrier an absolute defense that only deactivate if a superior amount of energy is used against them.

Or a protective mass of energy that will take the damage instead of the magician.

Most barriers disappear in 2-5 posts, depending on the rank.

Rank 15 barriers are like absolute defense though.

I'm only commentating your argument with Umi

I think you can't agree because you see the barrier in a different way :

Umi think that it's like creating a "law" around him : Nothing can pass. But this "law" can be broke by a superior or equal amount of energy.

You think that it's something like a shield, that take damage instead of the user, so damage can be stacked to break the barrier.

Barrier's are constant other than certain archetypes of spells: Flans Paries Aeriales for example, is a instant defense wall, and Limes Aeriales disappears too, but most magic barriers mages use are maintained for long periods of time at about 60% until they are fully opened for a short period of time.

Dorianodet: That's what i've been arguing this enter time..

Will: Cracks? It either entirely breaks the barrier or doesnt, otherwise it's like any other attack.

I know Umi !!!!

Like I said I just try to explain what you two were saying with a more imaged picture, because you two weren't arguing of the same definition of "a barrier" But i've understand what both of you want to say

Then it's settled. lol Will loses

What're you talking about? We already agreed to...

Barrier Breaker techniques break equal, lesser or 1 rank above barriers.

They don't break anything above one rank above the technique.

I don't have any personal opinion on it, because your definition would also mean that a spell of higher rank would hit the user of the barrier at full power, if it's just a question of level of energy, when what William is trying to say is that even if he break the barrier with his lava fist, it would still take him to use at least one (and maybe 3) of them to break the barrier, and this without harming the user in the process (except if the difference between the barrier strength and the attack are great)

It's how I understand the situation.

Then it's settled

Yup. Eg. Rank 6 barrier breaker can destroy rank 7 and below barriers.

That's fine

Glad it's settled. Onto another matter... should we keep the buffing rules the same?

Fate Averruncus remindes me of Aang...

Lord Arceus wrote:

Fate Averruncus remindes me of Aang...

LOL!?

Pyoh wrote:

Lord Arceus wrote:

Fate Averruncus remindes me of Aang...

LOL!?

Except that Fate Averruncus is not the following:

1. The Avatar
2. A Waterbender
3. An Earthbender
4. A Firebender
5. An Airbender
6. Arceus

In FACT; he is neither of them put together.