Negima: Lost Magic
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.


Negima: Lost Magic is a Negima RP, where many adventures can unfold, from travelling the magical world, learning ancient magic and simply travelling with your partners. Explore the vast land, learning all that you can, striving to be the best!
 
HomeSearchLatest imagesRegisterLog in

Share
 

 Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
Go to page : 1, 2  Next
AuthorMessage
B★RS
Admin
B★RS

Female Posts : 647
Join date : 2010-12-22
Age : 28
Location : Admin Panel

Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities Empty
PostSubject: Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities   Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities EmptyFri Feb 04, 2011 12:23 am

Here is the latest table.
Rank:
Fun fact: only self-buffs & NPC's receive the full buff, anyone else only gets the (Spell - Rank) for a boost.

Old:


Last edited by B★RS on Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:05 pm; edited 7 times in total (Reason for editing : Added some alternatives & stuff)
Back to top Go down
Umibouzu

Umibouzu

Male Posts : 2815
Join date : 2010-01-26

Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities Empty
PostSubject: Re: Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities   Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities EmptyFri Feb 04, 2011 12:32 am

Thats actually quite a lot....and a little OP'd towards the middle
Back to top Go down
B★RS
Admin
B★RS

Female Posts : 647
Join date : 2010-12-22
Age : 28
Location : Admin Panel

Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities Empty
PostSubject: Re: Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities   Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities EmptyFri Feb 04, 2011 12:35 am

Spoiler:

I use this chart when making anything, I based the stat boost on 10 Int = 4 Points
Back to top Go down
Jukensong
Baka Blue
Jukensong

Male Posts : 656
Join date : 2011-01-27

Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities Empty
PostSubject: Re: Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities   Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities EmptyFri Feb 04, 2011 12:49 am

So if it's rank like say 7 and you wanted to put a buff on a guy instead of one stat it'll be like...+6 str,accuracy and speed for it to get the full 18 points?

Or can you still put it all into one stat but with severe diminishing returns like...If you wanted it so badly the thing gets reduced to just +10 strength instead of the full 18?
Back to top Go down
https://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1686489196
B★RS
Admin
B★RS

Female Posts : 647
Join date : 2010-12-22
Age : 28
Location : Admin Panel

Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities Empty
PostSubject: Re: Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities   Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities EmptyFri Feb 04, 2011 12:57 am

Jukensong wrote:
So if it's rank like say 7 and you wanted to put a buff on a guy instead of one stat it'll be like...+6 str,accuracy and speed for it to get the full 18 points?

Or can you still put it all into one stat but with severe diminishing returns like...If you wanted it so badly the thing gets reduced to just +10 strength instead of the full 18?

Depends on the equation:
At Rank 7, it is +/- 18 points, so at Rank*2, you can place 14 points into a single stat and the other 4 into a different stat.
Alternatively, at Rank*2.5, you can place ~18 (round up) into the single stat, so all of them can go into one stat.

Separately, Rank 7 is 16 points, and at Rank*2, you can play 14 into a single, and the other 2 into a different.
Separately Alternative, at Rank*2.5, you can play ~18 (round up) into a single stat, so all of them can go into one stat.
Back to top Go down
Jukensong
Baka Blue
Jukensong

Male Posts : 656
Join date : 2011-01-27

Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities Empty
PostSubject: Re: Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities   Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities EmptyFri Feb 04, 2011 1:00 am

B★RS wrote:
Depends on the equation:
At Rank 7, it is +/- 18 points, so at Rank*2, you can place 14 points into a single stat and the other 4 into a different stat.
Alternatively, at Rank*2.5, you can place ~18 (round up) into the single stat, so all of them can go into one stat.

Separately, Rank 7 is 16 points, and at Rank*2, you can play 14 into a single, and the other 2 into a different.
Separately Alternative, at Rank*2.5, you can play ~18 (round up) into a single stat, so all of them can go into one stat.

Sry about this. Rank*2?
Back to top Go down
https://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1686489196
Umibouzu

Umibouzu

Male Posts : 2815
Join date : 2010-01-26

Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities Empty
PostSubject: Re: Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities   Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities EmptyFri Feb 04, 2011 1:03 am

Considering that a +30 buff is enough to put someone in a whole nother stat bracket, it might be a little OP'd Kill Kill
Back to top Go down
B★RS
Admin
B★RS

Female Posts : 647
Join date : 2010-12-22
Age : 28
Location : Admin Panel

Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities Empty
PostSubject: Re: Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities   Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities EmptyFri Feb 04, 2011 1:06 am

Umibouzu wrote:
Considering that a +30 buff is enough to put someone in a whole nother stat bracket, it might be a little OP'd Kill Kill

Yeah, at Rank 15 (14)
When you need 120+ SP/Int
Back to top Go down
Jukensong
Baka Blue
Jukensong

Male Posts : 656
Join date : 2011-01-27

Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities Empty
PostSubject: Re: Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities   Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities EmptyFri Feb 04, 2011 1:09 am

Oh I get it now.

Kk w/e

it's fine.

A bummer to ppl who are starting out but fine never the less
Back to top Go down
https://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1686489196
B★RS
Admin
B★RS

Female Posts : 647
Join date : 2010-12-22
Age : 28
Location : Admin Panel

Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities Empty
PostSubject: Re: Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities   Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities EmptyFri Feb 04, 2011 1:12 am

Hmm.. not really..

..a Rank 5 skill is +10 SP, which is Rank*2=10, so he or she can dump all the points into what he wants.
Back to top Go down
Jukensong
Baka Blue
Jukensong

Male Posts : 656
Join date : 2011-01-27

Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities Empty
PostSubject: Re: Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities   Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities EmptyFri Feb 04, 2011 1:49 am

Debuffs I mean

it can cripple ppl to have no 0 in a stat unless something prevents it to have less then 1/4 of their max or something ^^
Back to top Go down
https://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1686489196
B★RS
Admin
B★RS

Female Posts : 647
Join date : 2010-12-22
Age : 28
Location : Admin Panel

Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities Empty
PostSubject: Re: Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities   Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities EmptyFri Feb 04, 2011 2:31 am

A Rank 5 in the current system is enough to cripple a newb ~
Back to top Go down
Jukensong
Baka Blue
Jukensong

Male Posts : 656
Join date : 2011-01-27

Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities Empty
PostSubject: Re: Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities   Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities EmptyFri Feb 04, 2011 2:34 am

<--- The newbie

Yea I no

Back to top Go down
https://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1686489196
Umibouzu

Umibouzu

Male Posts : 2815
Join date : 2010-01-26

Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities Empty
PostSubject: Re: Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities   Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities EmptyFri Feb 04, 2011 3:16 am

Not quite, at about Rank 8-9 it gets severely overpowered, the rates just arent good.
Back to top Go down
B★RS
Admin
B★RS

Female Posts : 647
Join date : 2010-12-22
Age : 28
Location : Admin Panel

Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities Empty
PostSubject: Re: Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities   Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities EmptyFri Feb 04, 2011 4:03 am

Umibouzu wrote:
Not quite, at about Rank 8-9 it gets severely overpowered, the rates just arent good.


William wrote:
  • Rank 8 – The sheer force of these spells are tough. Barriers are stronger than any beneath its own rank and poisons spread very fast. Healing becomes very quick and attacks become deadly to another’s life. People may not tell the difference between reality and an illusion at this kind of level. These are spells on the level of a trained magician.

  • Rank 9 – Spells are stronger and more fearful than the average mage. They can begin to knock out someone easily and have a much wider and further range than normal spells, though hitting accurately still depends on your accuracy. Stat boosts begin making your character on a much higher tier level.
Back to top Go down
dorianodet

dorianodet

Male Posts : 1409
Join date : 2010-11-29
Age : 32
Location : France

Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities Empty
PostSubject: Re: Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities   Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities EmptyFri Feb 04, 2011 6:32 am

I was thinking the same. The actual system is good as it is before you reach the intel cap. When it get a lot harder to boost your spell, the "2*rank" make it lame.
Back to top Go down
B★RS
Admin
B★RS

Female Posts : 647
Join date : 2010-12-22
Age : 28
Location : Admin Panel

Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities Empty
PostSubject: Re: Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities   Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities EmptyFri Feb 04, 2011 7:05 am

Umibouzu wrote:
Considering that a +30 buff is enough to put someone in a whole nother stat bracket, it might be a little OP'd Kill Kill


At the current system, you need a Rank 15 to get a 30 SP boost, but a Rank 15 Skill is 150 INT cost.. that is 1/5 of the points spent on it.. and that is godly level.

My system, at Rank 15, you get 70, which is almost half of the points payed to get to that level.
My alternate system, at Rank 15, you get 55, which is a third of the points payed for that rank of skill.

Now then, a Rank 9 gives 18 points at the current system, which is slightly more than 1/3 of the 50 INT cost.
My system gives a Rank 9 boost 30 points, which is 3/5 of a 50 INT cost.
Alternatively, Rank 9 gives 25 points, which is 1/2 of its 50 INT cost.
Back to top Go down
B★RS
Admin
B★RS

Female Posts : 647
Join date : 2010-12-22
Age : 28
Location : Admin Panel

Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities Empty
PostSubject: Re: Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities   Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities EmptyFri Feb 04, 2011 4:58 pm

B★RS wrote:

Alternatively:

It looks like I might have to lean more toward my alternate, without the Rank limitation.
Back to top Go down
TheWill
Admin
TheWill

Male Posts : 4808
Join date : 2010-01-25
Age : 28

Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities Empty
PostSubject: Re: Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities   Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities EmptyFri Feb 04, 2011 11:09 pm

That one's good in my opinion. Cat
Back to top Go down
https://negimalostmagic.rpg-board.net
dorianodet

dorianodet

Male Posts : 1409
Join date : 2010-11-29
Age : 32
Location : France

Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities Empty
PostSubject: Re: Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities   Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities EmptySat Feb 05, 2011 6:33 am

Same here, the first one seemed fine in my opignon.
Back to top Go down
TheWill
Admin
TheWill

Male Posts : 4808
Join date : 2010-01-25
Age : 28

Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities Empty
PostSubject: Re: Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities   Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities EmptySat Feb 05, 2011 6:39 am

That one as in the latest one. Not the first one...
Back to top Go down
https://negimalostmagic.rpg-board.net
B★RS
Admin
B★RS

Female Posts : 647
Join date : 2010-12-22
Age : 28
Location : Admin Panel

Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities Empty
PostSubject: Re: Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities   Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities EmptySat Feb 05, 2011 3:46 pm

The former was based on 4's
The latter is based on 3's
Back to top Go down
Umibouzu

Umibouzu

Male Posts : 2815
Join date : 2010-01-26

Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities Empty
PostSubject: Re: Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities   Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities EmptySat Feb 05, 2011 7:07 pm

Yes but an over +30 stat boost is enough to put you far ahead of everyone else, and make newbies strong enough to fight high level players.
Back to top Go down
Jukensong
Baka Blue
Jukensong

Male Posts : 656
Join date : 2011-01-27

Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities Empty
PostSubject: Re: Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities   Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities EmptySat Feb 05, 2011 7:26 pm

Flex* Umi can buff up all the newbs and take over the forums!
Back to top Go down
https://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1686489196
dorianodet

dorianodet

Male Posts : 1409
Join date : 2010-11-29
Age : 32
Location : France

Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities Empty
PostSubject: Re: Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities   Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities EmptySat Feb 05, 2011 7:36 pm

30 won't be so much once we'll have something like 100 of stats. Level rank 9 are mean to be strong.

But right now, the problem is that +30 of stat, casted over a new player, could make too much of a difference.

A limit of stat boosting should be put, : Can get more than a third of his actual stat in term of boost.

It's RP in the way that someone couldn't control his speed if he were to be boosted too much.
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content




Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities Empty
PostSubject: Re: Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities   Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities Empty

Back to top Go down
 

Ranking of (De)Boosting Spells & Abilities

View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 1 of 2Go to page : 1, 2  Next

 Similar topics

-
» Basic Abilities for Ki-users
» Stat Boosting and Deboosting

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Negima: Lost Magic :: Help, Support and Suggestions :: Help and Support-